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12-20-2009, 12:26 PM
 
Recently created a new blog and discovered some interesting things vis a vis G and the way it interprets the page for creating a description.

On many of my sites I'll have a description meta tag, and it will often mirror (though shortened) the starting main text of the page. When you have a description tag G will usually use it in the two-line summary under your page name in the SERPs.

I discovered though that G may be filtering page contents if it determines the page is a blog, and that the top-most text may be constantly changing because of new posts. In one case I did not set a description meta tag, believing G would find some text I had in the body. Instead, G skipped what appeared to it to be part of postings, and picked up the footer for the description!

The overall layout is like this:

Code:
heading
 ...
/heading
main body
   columnar post structure
       individual posts
          ...
       /individual posts
    /columnar post structure
   sidebar structure
     ...
   /sidebar post structure
/main body
footer
  ....
/footer
Looking at the HTML construction of the page I can see this could be a common issue with blogs. Many WordPress blogs use the same or similar class/ID names for the main DIV CSS components, and G may be trained to look for these. Anything within these DIVs will not be regarded for the purposes of descriptions and some other metadata.

There are a couple of things you can do:

1. Build in a description meta in the header.php for your blog. However, this means all your pages will have the same description meta.

2. Use an SEO tool to provide distinct descriptions to each page type. Mostly useful for the main index and category pages.

3. Use some clever PHP to insert a text segment before the posts. This text appears above all your posts. Because it's outside the post DIVs, G will not see it as a post. You can use the isHome() statement to restrict the text to just your home page.

I didn't want to do #3 because I already have something similar in the sidebar. So in my particular case, I did #2, and I also replicated the text for the footer. So now, if G ignores the description meta for some reason, it'll still pick up what I want from the footer.

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12-20-2009, 08:21 PM
 
that's pretty interesting VG. Of course, now I've got to do some research on the blogs I've got to see how they display in the serps...
 
 
 
 
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I discovered though that G may be filtering page contents if it determines the page is a blog, and that the top-most text may be constantly changing because of new posts. In one case I did not set a description meta tag, believing G would find some text I had in the body. Instead, G skipped what appeared to it to be part of postings, and picked up the footer for the description!
I always work with a unique meta description which is bloody hard work, but can "just" be done and G always uses that on both pages & posting
 
 
 
 
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12-21-2009, 02:13 AM
 
well I'm stumped... just went through stats for the last 24 hours on one blog for a bunch of G results that went directly to a post. The descriptions used by G ranged from the actual description I wrote, to the first couple lines of the post to the first sentence in the post and then some sentence closer to the end of the post. I really could not see a pattern to what got used...

every post has a unique description based on the post content, but not copied from the content
 
 
 
 
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G will take either, or the key is getting the description unique which is hard going
 
 
 
 
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G will take either, or the key is getting the description unique which is hard going
Looks like it has to be pretty friggn unique from the post to get used
 
 
 
 
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yep fun isnt it
 
 
 
 
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12-21-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Not sure what metric G uses to determine if it wants to use the description meta but one thing I know is that it has to match the overall keyword "spread" of your site or page. Otherwise it'll say fuck you very much and then take a part of the actual page. And more often than not it won't be the text you want.

I have found a fairly neutral wording is the best for decriptions. If you put in a lot of "power adjectives" (great, beautiful, gorgeous, wonderful, best, etc.) I think G will consider it fluff and move on. The description should fairly simply state the content of the page, without undue gloss and glitz. If it's what the punters are looking for they will click.
 
 
 
 
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12-21-2009, 10:22 AM
 
agree

I sometimes leave the description for a couple of days so I can return with a fresh view on it as I always tend to follow the same "sales pitch" type contact if I do it straight after doing the page itself

just means you have lots of notes on pages you need to return to
 
 
 
 
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12-21-2009, 12:19 PM
 
clearly something I'm going to have to pay some more attention too....
 
 
 
 
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Very interesting, I will probably do that
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12-23-2009, 03:37 AM
 
problem is so many don't put any effort into their descriptions and its one of the most important factors within a sites SEO - but it needs to be as unique as it can be, which is the challenge
 
 
 
 
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I'm sure thinking about it differently already. Have to see what changes as I can find new posts in the SERPs
 
 
 
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