[Munge]

Hey everyone. I have been reading through the forums here for the past few days and found some awesome info!

Anyways, I figured selling porn would be a good way to make some fast cash

So I've been thinking and reading and reading some more. Can one mega-porn-blog.com work, or will I need to go niche-keywords-stuff.domain.com. Would it be even better to buy a new domain for each blog...

Argh, I don't understand why google would rank one post page higher than another, with the same content but on a different domain? I know I'm missing something here so I thought I'd ask the experts!

[Gaystoryman]

Welcome to the forum
IF you have been reading, then you missed the first important concept about being an adult webmaster.

THERE IS NO FAST CASH TO BE MADE

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it takes hard work, loads of research, and lots of determination and oh yeah, oodles and oodles of time.

One has to start off slow, to learn the mechanics of not just having a site, but in posting, in managing it, marketing it, and selling it... to the customer. Thats means learning how to put it together, images and content, to make it marketable. In that you also need to learn the basics on Search Engines and how to insure you include proper keywords for the area you are delving into.

Mega Porn One Size Fits All Porn sites are doable, just hard. Find a niche you like, are familiar with, then start there and gradually, as you learn, you can expand.

hth and good luck... you'll need it, as will any beginner

[Tigger]

welcome

So I've been thinking and reading and reading some more. Can one mega-porn-blog.com work, or will I need to go niche-keywords-stuff.domain.com. Would it be even better to buy a new domain for each blog...

yes it can but and its a big but can you get the traffic to it and thats something I doubt, in fact thats were most / all website fall flat due to not getting traffic - The idea behind niche sites means you can target the traffic / links / content / URL (name) to a smaller niche and then build the traffic

The better way forward is to build smaller niche sites and then use these to feed traffic onto your main site - should that be a route you want to try

But as for easy, I'm glad you laughed afterwards

Good luck and welcome

[Munge]

Thanks for the great replies and warm welcome. Even more stuff to think about!

The fast cash line was a bit of a joke, although it'd be very nice. I got myself a domain, some hosting and paid for a wordpress theme. I've been figuring all that out for the last month or so, it's been online properly for almost a week and I had 9 (nine!) visits yesterday. My dreams of a house on the beach are being replaced with dreams of banner ads and php

After reading your replies again. I think I'll press on with this as my Mega Porn One Size Fits All site and spend some time writing posts and fiddling with SEO until I feel happy. Then make some smaller niche sites and see how that goes!

[Tigger]

you paid for a wordpress theme ? thats a first - how come? - you didn't buy into a turnkey product?

it's been online properly for almost a week and I had 9 (nine!) visits

post it up lets have a peep

I still think your going about this the wrong way - a mega porn site is going to struggle

[Munge]

Mega is totally the wrong word here, that makes it sound big and good!

I screwed around with themes forever, even tried to do my own which was a total fail. I settled on thesis in the end and messed with the css until it didn't look like thesis any more. I was told it was awesome for SEO (certainly has loads of buttons to press in the control panel). I dunno..

It's a bit light on content, but I'm almost done figuring out openx for my ads, and can then switch the theme to 2/3 columns and sort the navigation. Then go nuts on posting some real content

Oh, the link is here. *waits for everyone to say - delete it and start over*

[Tigger]

I know the Thesis theme and tested it out on a blog I run - YES it does offer a lot of tweaks but personally I'm not that impressed with the features that really in my view just hype up the price

Interesting blog you have there! - STOP you need to know how to use the thesis theme and optimise postings otherwise your putting effort into pages that will never rank - also did you forget the text ? one I looked at had very little text and no where near enough to get a SE interested in it

Also close comments it will just attract spam

My advice read threads here on SEO and optimising a blog

my thesis blog http://www.fetishstreaming.co.uk/

[Munge]

That made me laugh. A month of work and I get - STOP!

Thanks for the info and link to your site. I've not really started with the content they were more like test posts. I'm having a hard time with the technicalities of wordpress, uploading images, themes, plugins and all that stuff. Not to mention sponsors/CCBILL, what content I can and can't use, free hosted galleries *explode*

Righty, I'll read some more on SEO and I notice you are using something like /%category%/%postname% on your permalinks and then navigate using the categories. I tried for ages to get that to work for more keywords in the url. I'll try again.

I also think I understand what the extra fields are for in thesis now, meta tags and all that!

Thanks again for the help

[Tigger]

That made me laugh. A month of work and I get - STOP!

least you only wasted a month

something like /%category%/%postname% on your permalinks and then navigate using the categories

oh yes it all helps by getting keywords in - but flavor of the month is page titles so make sure you put effort into posting titles ...........and not forgetting the other 99 points G takes into account

good luck and have fun

[gonzogone]

Originally Posted by Munge

That made me laugh. A month of work and I get - STOP!

Consider it a month of spending time in school

Welcome Munge!

there is a large amount to learn when trying to figure out how to market any website. Throw in what's needed to setup a site in WordPress and the learning curve can get pretty steep. The good news is that you only have to learn the basics once. Unfortunately, SEO isn't totally in the "basics" area. Parts of it are though.

The challenge with anything bigger than a specific niche is that sites can get difficult to figure out 'who' to market to. Sure, there are a ton of opportunities since you may end up with content that could appeal to everybody, but EVERYBODY is a HUGE audience and targeting them can be a pain in the ass...

The other problem is that you are now in competition with EVERY OTHER site out there in all areas - that's a LOT of competition! If you try to target a niche, you at least cut down on the amount of competition and have a better chance of identifying who the market is and how to get to them more easily.

Glad you found us. Keep reading and asking questions.

[Tigger]

The challenge with anything bigger than a specific niche is that sites can get difficult to figure out 'who' to market to. Sure, there are a ton of opportunities since you may end up with content that could appeal to everybody, but EVERYBODY is a HUGE audience and targeting them can be a pain in the ass..

plus you will have the niche sites that are targeting terms that your trying hit under your "ALL" range - getting traffic for these sites is extremely hard

[conran]

I have to agree that there is no quick way. It's all about building a blog over time and seeing the traffic rising and the sales gradually increase over the years until you can see a steady income.

On the domain thing, I've had good results by creating sub domains on one primary one. Register a decent domain and make that the hub for the sites. If it's a good keyword rich domain name you don't really need to do much to it to see some traffic, just present the niche sub domains on it.

Then research some niches that don't really have that much competition. It's also wise to view the stats for related keywords to see what words you could cash in on that are not high competition.
Then you just create a decent blog on a sub and work on that for a while. You can move on at any time to create another, and build each until you have a good small collection of high value blogs.

One of the benefits of using the sub domain system is that Google views each one as unique. So you could try out various posting methods and blog styles without it affecting your other blogs. You could even try different software on each one to see what Google thinks of various options. Perhaps you'll find that an alternative to Wordpress actually performs better, who knows?

One thing I would suggest is make sure your hosting can handle it. If you have several blogs on sub domains you need to consider your hosting limits. It's still very affordable with a company like Arvixe, but it's wise to make sure you install plug ins like WP Super Cache to minimize your impact on the host.

[conran]

Oh, and almost forgot. One of the most vital aspects of promoting porn for money is including ORIGINAL CONTENT.

A good example of how important this is...
Find a shoot that is more than a week old and copy a line of text. Paste it into Google with quotations.
See how many affiliate blogs appear for that? You'll be competing with them all and getting nowhere fast unless you write a shoot description yourself (or pay someone like me a little dosh to do it for you).

Always write original content for every single post, never copy/paste.

All those affiliates who have built thousands of posts with copy/paste content over the years are about to be destroyed by Google when they roll out the Panda update all over the world. They now have to make the choice of rewriting every post, or starting again from scratch.

You'll have one up on all of them if you start writing original text from the very start. If you don't, the blog will be worthless either in several months, or in a year or two when Google perfects their duplicate content filters.

[Tigger]

It's all about building a blog over time and seeing the traffic rising and the sales gradually increase over the years until you can see a steady income.

I'd like to agree with you - but lets be honest we are dealing with G here and that never plays fair and what often should rank and build traffic often gets dumped for reasons that only G will know about

Whilst using subs is fine I prefer to keep everything separate so that if a site does pick up a problem your not going to get hit, plus we all know rankings are about controlling links and the only way to do this is with your own sites - so for $100 I'll setup new sites spreading the link flow in ............plus keeping all your income eggs in one host is risky if it drops offline

Oh, and almost forgot. One of the most vital aspects of promoting porn for money is including ORIGINAL CONTENT.

agree, we are already seeing a lot of the spammers getting dropped that throw crap up, only problem least right now is G is back to its old trends of ranking everything the authorises throw up Amazon recently added a cuckold video range and now rank for anything cuckold related, along with all the news, and wiki sites

[conran]

Originally Posted by Tigger

I'd like to agree with you - but lets be honest we are dealing with G here and that never plays fair and what often should rank and build traffic often gets dumped for reasons that only G will know about

Whilst using subs is fine I prefer to keep everything separate so that if a site does pick up a problem your not going to get hit, plus we all know rankings are about controlling links and the only way to do this is with your own sites - so for $100 I'll setup new sites spreading the link flow in ............plus keeping all your income eggs in one host is risky if it drops offline



agree, we are already seeing a lot of the spammers getting dropped that throw crap up, only problem least right now is G is back to its old trends of ranking everything the authorises throw up Amazon recently added a cuckold video range and now rank for anything cuckold related, along with all the news, and wiki sites

Good point on the maintenance issues of subs, of course if the server has problems all your blogs are down. I've not really experienced this yet, but it is a concern.

On the duplicate thing, I've even seen sponsors not ranking for their own content. Affiliates are listed, but no sponsor. So there are definitely bugs in the whole idea of dupe content with Google.
But, this is their fault (sponsors) too. Some of them send out the same content they add to their sites, and most blogs are crawled much faster than their pay site, so the sponsor ends up being viewed as the duplicate.
It could spell disaster for sponsors if they gain a considerable income from affiliate sales. Imagine all those duplicate blogs vanishing over night, and while the sponsor isn't ranking for their own content too. Very worrying indeed.